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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 16, 2008 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

That's not true. Keith joined in late 71, Bob didn't start playing slide till 78 I think. Maybe before that but not much. Definately not" shortly after" Also, I've heard him and others talk on and on about their frustration with Keith sticking to pianio. I don't think that became an issue until later either, you know with the whole Disco movement and what have you. The band was very pleased with Keith for the first, and best part, of his tenure with them.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

http://dozin.com/bobs/interview/weir4.html

Here was the article. And I believe you are correct that he did not start playing it with the band until the late 70s. Not sure when he started picking it up though. I probably read into his comment too much and assumed that he started playing it before performing it. my bad.

and while Keith joined in 71, Pig was still playing the organ with them until the middle of 72 so it would not have become clear to Bob that the sustain instrument was missing immediately.

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2008-01-16 20:24:02

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

It's funny that Bobby says his hands aren't big enough because I've always thought that they are actually freakishly huge! Some of the chords that Bobby plays are impossible for me to get because of the size of my hands. He can cover a lot of frets.

Thanks for the link!

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jan 16, 2008 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

Garcia even commented on the size of Weir's hands, and the very unusual baroque sounding chords he could play simply due to size. Lot's of this kind of playing is beautifully illustrated during Weather Report Suite.

As for his slide playing and when it began, I believe there was some noodling and brief experimentation going on around before Lowell George was on the scene for Shakedown. Both Weir and Jorma had a huge fascination with the Reverend Gary Davis, and I think both thought it very cool to be getting some licks from an authentic blues master.

Not sure when this translated into an onstage experience, but recall Garcia mentioning in as polite a way as possible that Weir was "experimenting" with slide.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 16, 2008 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

Trivia sidebar: Reverend Gary Davis performed Wavy's marriage

http://www.reverendgarydavis.com/stories.html

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

I don't think that sustain and as they said " color" played any role until later on. Keith was very much a part of their sound and direction for the first half of his stint.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

I think he was part of their sound pretty much all the way through. Hard to argue that Keith was not an important component in 77. I was listening to 1-15-79 last night and he was strong. I do think he would disappear at times though, particularly after the break when the drums started to take up more space.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

Well he called him the cats pajamas on one of those Portland 72 gigs

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Poster: headgdhead Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

78 sounds about right. Lowell George was working with the band producing Shakedown Street around that time. He definitely sat in with them and you can hear his influence in Bobby's playing.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 16, 2008 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

this is fun and (in)directly linked to above:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRSDzG5oOgc

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 16, 2008 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bobby's Slide Playing

The Gans book has them talking about how they wanted Brent because they wanted more "colors and dynamics" in their sound, which ties in with what JOTS says above re Keith.

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